Latest Nvidia RTX 5080 leaks hint at DLSS 4 and GDDR7 ahead of CES unveiling

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Rumor mill: We all know that Nvidia is going to unveil the RTX 5000 Blackwell series of consumer graphics cards in a few days, but what else will Team Green reveal at CES? Many expect the next generation of DLSS technology, DLSS 4, to be on show. Now, what appears to be a listing for a custom variant of the RTX 5080 has confirmed the new upscaling tech.

Nvidia, you may remember, announced DLSS 3 during the RTX 4080 and RTX 4090 launch back in September 2022. It's reasonable to expect that the fourth generation of the upscaler will be unveiled during the RTX 5000 event.

Adding to the speculation is an apparent screenshot of an Asus RTX 5080 listing from a European retailer. It's priced at 1,699 Euros, around $1,749, and seems to confirm the card's rumored use of GDDR7 memory.

That's a high price, though it includes 20% value added tax (VAT), so it would actually be 1,359 Euros, or $1,399. It's also worth remembering that AIB partner cards, especially those from Asus, tend to be priced higher than reference versions due to added bells and whistles such as factory overclocking.

The listing also mentions DLSS4. This could just be a faked image, of course, but prolific and usually accurate leaker kopite7kimi replied to skepticism of the post on X by saying "DLSS4 is true."

Earlier this month, Nvidia board partner Inno3D revealed some of the AI-assisted features that it planned to showcase at CES. There was mention of Advanced DLSS technology, which could be a reference to DLSS 4.

Something else that Inno3D mentioned was Neural Rendering Capabilities, which it claims will revolutionize how graphics are processed and displayed.

It's possible that neural rendering will be part of DLSS 4, much like Frame Generation is with DLSS 3. As with FG, it wouldn't be surprising if Nvidia made it exclusive to the company's newest series of graphics cards.

Unsurprisingly, AMD is also believed to be unveiling the next version of its upscaling tech, FSR 4, at CES. Team Red is said to be skipping the Radeon RX 8000 nomenclature in favor of the RX 9000 series, though none of its cards are expected to compete with Nvidia's flagships.

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Latest Nvidia RTX 5080 leaks hint at DLSS 4 and GDDR7 ahead of CES unveiling

 
I think DLSS 4 could be a game-changer, especially if it further improves frame generation and base framerates. By increasing the base framerate to higher levels, it could significantly reduce input latency.

If DLSS 4 integrates advanced neural rendering or other AI-powered optimizations, we might see a leap in how efficiently games run at higher resolutions. This could make 4K gaming with full ray tracing more feasible at higher frame rates, even for mid-tier systems! With the 50-series, they will undoubtedly introduce exclusive features (you can bet DLSS 4 is tied to 50-series) that are likely to entice high-end gamers to upgrade.
 
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Please buy our $3,200 RTX5090 so you can upscale....


News flash, Professional/high-end Gamers do not even use Vsync and go for full raster and nVidia is trying to sell you a broken Enterprise $3k PRO card, as an RTX gaming card. And Nvidia tries and market that lack of actual gaming performance (raster) using enterprise fluff marketing dlss4.

Blackwell is not gaming technology is it Ai..
 
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m3tavision said:
Please buy our $3,200 RTX5090 so you can upscale....
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I've been saying this for years ever since DLSS started to be marketed in a misleading way. Frame gen being thrown on top just made the issue far, far worse.

The amount of people I come across on my Discord who genuinely believe their RTX 3060 Ti is pulling 4K60 full RT and all are all very misinformed.

Now, we've reached the point where DLSS is just covering up the complete lack of optimisation right across the board. It bothers me that a card like the RTX 4090, let alone the 5090 needs DLSS to upscale from a 1080P render to hit playable FPS in many titles.

Everyone largely seems ok with it tho?
 
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defaultname365 said:
I think DLSS 4 could be a game-changer...
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Yeah, but only until DLSS 5 comes out with new generation of cards and sponsored games supporting only the newest and greatest.
But I suppose in a long run It's a good thing for consumers - nVidia is making Its proprietary tech obsolete with every such little step. Devs will either step up the game to optimize for majority of cards (older generations, AMD, Intel)), or will be bitc in' about not selling enough copies.
 
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godrilla said:
You can hallucinate using Neural Network ai generated textures exclusive to Blackwell propriety hardware for the limited vram so that makes it ok. 🤪
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I wonder if they hallucinated these prices. The 5080 will end up being the price of a 4090 once board partners start releasing custome designs. So they're basically re-releasing the 4090 with a few extra bells and whistles with a new name.
 
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I will buy a 5080 at $1000, but over that I will buy a 4070 TI (assuming $800).

From a 3080, I need 16 GB VRAM, but can’t justify over a grand for a GPU. (I’d rather spend my money on another motorcycle at that point)
 
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Am I the only one totally uninterested in neural rendering?

At such a high price I really don't think a ton of these will sell. It's the same node as Lovelace.
 
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yRaz said:
I wonder if they hallucinated these prices. The 5080 will end up being the price of a 4090 once board partners start releasing custome designs. So they're basically re-releasing the 4090 with a few extra bells and whistles with a new name.
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Price analyst to Nvidia the 5080 will not sell at $1199 because of the 4080 launch price data. Nvidia wanna bet? Create fud around $1600 for the 5080 and watch gamers buy up the 5080 en masse at $1199. You don't need hallucinations just some good ole Nvidia mind manipulation tactics.
Proof? Just look at the comments sections on Major tech sites where someone is pushing for high pricing or focusing on Current 4090 market conditions ( end of life supply pricing) and not the 95% of the 4090 life on the market pricing.
Look out for scalpers pushing for high pricing and simple minded sheep egging them on!
 
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ScottSoapbox said:
I will buy a 5080 at $1000, but over that I will buy a 4070 TI (assuming $800).

From a 3080, I need 16 GB VRAM, but can’t justify over a grand for a GPU. (I’d rather spend my money on another motorcycle at that point)
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If they have a limited amount of 4070ti, the price could go up soon like it did with 4090.
Although the explanation for 4090 going more expensive is also a high demand from China.
 
godrilla said:
Price analyst to Nvidia the 5080 will not sell at $1199 because of the 4080 launch price data. Nvidia wanna bet? Create fud around $1600 for the 5080 and watch gamers buy up the 5080 en masse at $1199. You don't need hallucinations just some good ole Nvidia mind manipulation tactics.
Proof? Just look at the comments sections on Major tech sites where someone is pushing for high pricing or focusing on Current 4090 market conditions ( end of life supply pricing) and not the 95% of the 4090 life on the market pricing.
Look out for scalpers pushing for high pricing and simple minded sheep egging them on!
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There were 2 leaks, both suggest 5080 costing ~1400.
But more importantly, I remember an earlier info, specifically that "next gen cards won't go up in price a lot." I believe that they want to raise the prices again. Why would they not with such huge demand? Even poorly priced 4080 sold well. I am only using logic sense. Are there people who will buy at new, and improved, prices? I think so.
 
godrilla said:
Price analyst to Nvidia the 5080 will not sell at $1199 because of the 4080 launch price data. Nvidia wanna bet? Create fud around $1600 for the 5080 and watch gamers buy up the 5080 en masse at $1199. You don't need hallucinations just some good ole Nvidia mind manipulation tactics.
Proof? Just look at the comments sections on Major tech sites where someone is pushing for high pricing or focusing on Current 4090 market conditions ( end of life supply pricing) and not the 95% of the 4090 life on the market pricing.
Look out for scalpers pushing for high pricing and simple minded sheep egging them on!
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The reason I disagree with this is that nVidia will release an OEM spec for the card but board partners will choose to use their allocated chips to make non-OEM spec'd cards that don't have to be sold at MSRP. Even now, there are OC versions of the 4080 super that are selling for $1400-1500. They're already expecting shortages of the 50 series ontop of what tariffs might be added to the cards so I'm just going to ignore the MSRP until we see real sales data.

With so many variables surrounding the 50 series, one being the MSRP, I won't dare to speculate on the actual price of these cards any further than I already have
 
Grab thing is we have choices. Developers have to make good decisions and say look our game looks great on a RTX 5090.
as others state elsewhere plenty of good old games.

A very good engine and well optimised can make 1440p games very immersive already

I'm glad hand helds and PS5/6 will keep game makers honest
I wonder if Sony tells developers to tidy up game sizes as well

More power, more ways, more memory , faster CPUs is not an excuse for resource wastage

Still won't have real ray tracing for quite awhile - except demo games like minecraft
 
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The reason I disagree with this is that nVidia will release an OEM spec for the card but board partners will choose to use their allocated chips to make non-OEM spec'd cards that don't have to be sold at MSRP. Even now, there are OC versions of the 4080 super that are selling for $1400-1500. They're already expecting shortages of the 50 series ontop of what tariffs might be added to the cards so I'm just going to ignore the MSRP until we see real sales data.

With so many variables surrounding the 50 series, one being the MSRP, I won't dare to speculate on the actual price of these cards any further than I already have
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Most calim the best 4080 super variant is the strix version which in it by itself has the ROG premium. This card launched at $1249 and is still selling for $1249 with end of life supply.

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ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4080 Super OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 16GB GDDR6X, DLSS 3, HDMI 2.1a, DisplayPort 1.4a, Vapor Chamber, Massive Vented Backplate, Power Sensing, Aura Sync)

Amazon price tracking & price history for ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4080 Super OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 16GB GDDR6X, DLSS 3, HDMI 2.1a, DisplayPort 1.4a, Vapor Chamber, Massive Vented Backplate, Power Sensing, Aura Sync)
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ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 16GB GDDR6X, DLSS 3, HDMI 2.1a, DisplayPort 1.4a, Vapor chamber, Aura Sync) ROG-STRIX-RTX4080S-O16G-GAMING - Walmart.com

Buy ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 16GB GDDR6X, DLSS 3, HDMI 2.1a, DisplayPort 1.4a, Vapor chamber, Aura Sync) ROG-STRIX-RTX4080S-O16G-GAMING at Walmart.com
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available now.

The 4080 super was selling as low as $949 multiple times since launch as well..

While some may paint a bleak picture that the sky is falling I believe the market once again will reject 5080 pricing above $1199 especially if doesn't come near the 4090 and limited vram.



Unless Nvidia will factor in the tarrifs in prebaked in at launch and throttles pricing/profits based on the response of the market/ tarrifs pressure. 🤔
 
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It is clear 5070 Ti will be as high as most people would be willing to go. Nvidia has been telling shops to tell people who will be bitching about 5080 and 5090 prices that they are "professional"cards and to point them to 5070 Ti.

Huang is a snake oil conman like fElon, these days pumping his AI BS. If 5090 needs DLSS then god help us.

For me it's either 9070XT (please don't suck) or second hand 4080 (Super)
 
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No way Ill be spending this much they are too greedy. I would buy a used 4000 card when the price is a bit lower even now the 4000 used market is not cheap.
 
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This is an odd community. Most of the commenters on here are complaining about the price and what you get for your money. But I bet the cards sell out and Nvidia make good profits on them.

I may consider this card. I need a 4K GPU for my new 4K 144hz OLED TV. I know the prices suck but I dont have a choice and its not like I need this. Its a complete luxury item for me and the vast majority of other users.

Its also worth noting that Nvidia have jacked up their prices over the last few years. Inflation has been rampant and most Americans at least are on much higher pay than they used to be too. Relative to my income this card is cheaper than the GTX 1080ti that I bought back in 2017.

If you dont like the price dont buy it. I dont really understand why people are getting emotional about it.
 
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If this is true, then Nvidia has become more of a software company by providing exclusive AI software for their newest hardware, thus locking in consumers and pushing them to upgrade every generation now.

 
fazy shah said:
No way Ill be spending this much they are too greedy.
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In other words:
Other people selling their stuff for more than I want to pay: "greed".
Me selling my stuff for every penny the market will bear: "common sense".
 
manowar51 said:
This is an odd community. Most of the commenters on here are complaining about the price and what you get for your money. But I bet the cards sell out and Nvidia make good profits on them.

I may consider this card. I need a 4K GPU for my new 4K 144hz OLED TV. I know the prices suck but I dont have a choice and its not like I need this. Its a complete luxury item for me and the vast majority of other users.

Its also worth noting that Nvidia have jacked up their prices over the last few years. Inflation has been rampant and most Americans at least are on much higher pay than they used to be too. Relative to my income this card is cheaper than the GTX 1080ti that I bought back in 2017.

If you dont like the price dont buy it. I dont really understand why people are getting emotional about it.
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GPU prices are really high and unfortunately there is nothing you can do but pay them if you want an above average GPU. I mean $1500 to get a good card but not the highest end is a bit nuts. Peoples perception of a logical GPU price has been skewed over the last few years. And the lack of options sucks. Unfortunately AMD isn't really competing so Nvidia is free to do whatever they want.
 
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In other words:
Other people selling their stuff for more than I want to pay: "greed".
Me selling my stuff for every penny the market will bear: "common sense".
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If you have sold a gpu you would know how much you get in comparison. I have sold gpus so I know what I got and I was talking about Nvidias greed not the GPU owners read properly.
 
m3tavision said:
Please buy our $3,200 RTX5090 so you can upscale....


News flash, Professional/high-end Gamers do not even use Vsync and go for full raster and nVidia is trying to sell you a broken Enterprise $3k PRO card, as an RTX gaming card. And Nvidia tries and market that lack of actual gaming performance (raster) using enterprise fluff marketing dlss4.

Blackwell is not gaming technology is it Ai..
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Got it. Don’t embrace the future of tech, sure. First, it was 3D accelerators, then transform and lighting (T&L), vertex and pixel shaders, real-time ray tracing, AI-powered upscaling (DLSS), hardware-accelerated ray tracing cores, mesh shaders, variable rate shading (VRS), resizable BAR, frame generation, and more. Each one of these "gimmicks" pushed the gaming experience further, even if skeptics like you initially scoffed at them.

News flash: professional and high-end gamers prioritize pure rasterization performance because their goal is to hit insane FPS at low latencies, often at 1080p or lower settings; not to admire the graphics. But that doesn’t mean the entire gaming market revolves around esports optimization. For the average gamer who values a mix of visuals and performance, the advancements you’re downplaying have been transformative.

And honestly, I have to wonder, back in the day, when forums and social platforms were scarce, did folks like you even exist? Or was this skepticism kept to private conversations with friends? Either way, nobody’s forcing you to buy, use, or even acknowledge these advancements.
 
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