Neural rendering might be Nvidia's next AI trick on RTX 5000

Relax.

I own NVIDIA stock and I am not even 1/3 as zealous as you guys. This is like yRAZ is speaking to zealots from Utah or something.

Is the Leatherman paying you at least or you are doing this pro bono?

Nah doing this for free, while making money :)
 
As expected, a very constructive comment—truly adding so much value to the discussion! If you’ve got a point to make, feel free to share it. Otherwise, you’re just proving mine: when you’ve got no argument, resorting to personal jabs is all that’s left.

Stay in the slow lane for as long as you’re comfortable; the rest of us will keep moving forward.

Here's how it usually goes:

STEP 1:
Jensen announces the RTX xx-series with next-gen tech.

STEP 2:
The opposing fanbase isn’t convinced and dismisses it as a "gimmick."

STEP 3:
A year or so later, the competition rolls out similar tech:
3a. The fanbase from step 2 claims AMD will do it better but doesn’t use it.
3b. The fanbase thinks AMD’s version is worse but uses it anyway because “AMD.”
3c. The fanbase completely ignores the tech and sticks with 2000s raster only, native, no upscale, no ray tracing because "embracing the future of next-gen graphics isn't for me".

STEP 4:
Repeat from step 1 with the next series.
The step-by-step process is as follows:
1° Create a useless technology that doesn't work well on anything, and will never work due to technical infeasibility and silicon limitations that are already on the horizon. But you keep promising generation after generation that it will work well.
2° The zombies believe it.
3° Since Nvidia controls the studios and a large army of zombies, they force the market to adopt the technology, then the competition has to adopt it.

Generations of promises and lies. Congratulations.
 
The step-by-step process is as follows:
1° Create a useless technology that doesn't work well on anything, and will never work due to technical infeasibility and silicon limitations that are already on the horizon. But you keep promising generation after generation that it will work well.
2° The zombies believe it.
3° Since Nvidia controls the studios and a large army of zombies, they force the market to adopt the technology, then the competition has to adopt it.

Generations of promises and lies. Congratulations.
I stand corrected—truly well done!
 
You know nothing about this, because you have an AMD GPU. FSR is what is blurry and full of artifacts with horrible motion clarity. This is the reason AMD GPU users hate upscaling, because their card can't do it well.

If everyone had your mentality, we would be going nowhere.
By that logic, you don't know about AMD upscaling tech because you don't own an AMD GPU.

People had been running non native resolutions on their screens for literal decades and noone complained about it until the DLSS vs FSR debate. Regardless of which is better, BOTH provide a vastly superior experience than what people had been doing decades.
 
By that logic, you don't know about AMD upscaling tech because you don't own an AMD GPU.

People had been running non native resolutions on their screens for literal decades and noone complained about it until the DLSS vs FSR debate. Regardless of which is better, BOTH provide a vastly superior experience than what people had been doing decades.

Don't bother arguing with him. The guy drank the whole KoolAid barrel and proceeds to call "non believers" ignorant sheeps. The hypocrisy is strong in that one.
 
What I don't get is that I'm running games at 4K on a large screen monitor comfortably, and didn't spend $2k on a card to do it. Upscaling is pointless at 4k, and with most games, the screen is too fast to appreciate ray traced reflections (it is turned on, but I really can't tell without screen caps and pixel peeping).
The only thing about "AI" I wonder about is it like AI search engines? Does it improve on what I ask for, or see, (or what the developer intended), or does it draw what it thinks I want to see? (like search engines have been doing).
 
Always amazes me how AMD GPU owners are willing to settle with less too.

DLSS - Best upscaler, with widespread support in 600+ games, dll can easily be changed to new version
DLAA - Best AA hands down, can be forced in all DLSS games
DLDSR - Best downscaler, can be used with DLSS, superior to DSR and VSR with lower perf hit
DLSS 3 FG - Best FG by far
Reflex - Best for low latency and don't get you VAC banned on Steam like AMD AntiLag+
RT - Best performance
PT - Best performance
Shadowplay - Best recording, in both quality and ressource requirement

Better drivers with good performance across all games, including alphas, betas and emulators with launch day drivers for all new AAA games. Simply less issues, because developers knows that 90% of PC users will be using Nvidia and in pretty much all cases, they use Nvidia themself, both at home and for actual testing during development

Also Nvidia is better for eSports and demanding players, which is why 99.9% of pros and streamers use Nvidia


AMD is cheaper for a reason you know ;)

If AMD actually did good in terms of GPUs, why are their marketshare dwindling? It is a CPU company and 90-95% of their R&D funds are spent here. Reality calls. They left high-end gaming GPU market for a reason. Can't compete - and there is little to no money in seling low-end GPUs, which is what AMD primarily sell.

7900XTX is at spot 50+ on Steam HW Survey, 7900XT not even listed. This is why AMD left high-end gaming GPU market. No buyers for expensive AMD GPUs when they lack in too many areas.
How far down is the 4090? Ppl buy cheap cards. This is why AMD is going for the mainstream this round. It's a smart move.
 
No surprise if they go down the AI route - AI will be integral in gaming going forward. I saw an example used on a mile of asphalt, where AI managed to create the full mile looking diverse and unique with only 1 foot of asphalt as the sample. Imagine using this for texturing brick buildings etc. - Where entire cityscapes will look "handcrafted"
 
I’ll buy AMD if they can do decent ray tracing. If I didn’t want ray tracing I’d have bought AMD already. 3060ti though. Great performance that becomes stellar when you turn on dlss. And lower power usage than the comparable raster AMD card.
 
and there is little to no money in seling low-end GPUs, which is what AMD primarily sell.

"Low end" GPUs outnumber high end GPUs by a huge margin. The 4090, 4080 and 4080 Super combined make up 2.48% of the GPUs in the Steam hardware survey. The RTX 3060 makes up just under 5% by itself.
 
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