Latest Nvidia RTX 5080 leaks hint at DLSS 4 and GDDR7 ahead of CES unveiling

manowar51 said:
This is an odd community. Most of the commenters on here are complaining about the price and what you get for your money. But I bet the cards sell out and Nvidia make good profits on them.

I may consider this card. I need a 4K GPU for my new 4K 144hz OLED TV. I know the prices suck but I dont have a choice and its not like I need this. Its a complete luxury item for me and the vast majority of other users.

Its also worth noting that Nvidia have jacked up their prices over the last few years. Inflation has been rampant and most Americans at least are on much higher pay than they used to be too. Relative to my income this card is cheaper than the GTX 1080ti that I bought back in 2017.

If you dont like the price dont buy it. I dont really understand why people are getting emotional about it.
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The 1080 ti launch price was $699 are you talking about the crypto mining scalped pricing that Nvidia wants us to focus on? Also the 5080 is not the 5080 ti and fortunately for us there was the 3080 that launched at $699 and 4080 supers that sold for $949 just in case anyone forgot and is talking about inflation.
While you might perceive this as complaining I am simply presenting the objective data. questions?

update. So what's your gripe on people complaining about pricing going up?
If you are right you will still get a chance to purchase Scalped pricing youvarr hoping for. If I am right you'll get to purchase it because no one will but it from available stock.
 
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fazy shah said:
If you have sold a gpu you would know how much you get in comparison. I have sold gpus so I know what I got and I was talking about Nvidias greed not the GPU owners read properly.
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I read properly. NVidia isn't being greedy -- you're acting entitled. NVidia's net profits are about 27%, but they're much lower on consumer cards: in the 18% range. Cards are expensive because designing and building them takes tens of billions of dollars: money that must be recovered, with interest and profit.

Not that it even matters. If you're selling your home and able to get five times what you paid for it, are you going to accept much less, simply to help out a buyers who may not wish to pay the market price?
 
defaultname365 said:
Got it. Don’t embrace the future of tech, sure. First, it was 3D accelerators, then transform and lighting (T&L), vertex and pixel shaders, real-time ray tracing, AI-powered upscaling (DLSS), hardware-accelerated ray tracing cores, mesh shaders, variable rate shading (VRS), resizable BAR, frame generation, and more. Each one of these "gimmicks" pushed the gaming experience further, even if skeptics like you initially scoffed at them.

News flash: professional and high-end gamers prioritize pure rasterization performance because their goal is to hit insane FPS at low latencies, often at 1080p or lower settings; not to admire the graphics. But that doesn’t mean the entire gaming market revolves around esports optimization. For the average gamer who values a mix of visuals and performance, the advancements you’re downplaying have been transformative.

And honestly, I have to wonder, back in the day, when forums and social platforms were scarce, did folks like you even exist? Or was this skepticism kept to private conversations with friends? Either way, nobody’s forcing you to buy, use, or even acknowledge these advancements.
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Agree 100% - good comment.
Both the 5080 and 5090 will sell well - People want the best performance, and cost is not an issue for a surprising amount of people.
I’ll probably get the 5090 - and in 3 years - my son will get it and use for an additional 2-3 years.
Which means that the card will have about 500 dollar yearly cost, which is less than I spend on beer
 
themastergoose said:
I've been saying this for years ever since DLSS started to be marketed in a misleading way. Frame gen being thrown on top just made the issue far, far worse.

The amount of people I come across on my Discord who genuinely believe their RTX 3060 Ti is pulling 4K60 full RT and all are all very misinformed.

Now, we've reached the point where DLSS is just covering up the complete lack of optimisation right across the board. It bothers me that a card like the RTX 4090, let alone the 5090 needs DLSS to upscale from a 1080P render to hit playable FPS in many titles.

Everyone largely seems ok with it tho?
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this explains it well.
 
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godrilla said:
You can hallucinate using Neural Network ai generated textures exclusive to Blackwell propriety hardware for the limited vram so that makes it ok. 🤪
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Give that pot is legal in several US states AI hallucinations might be seen as a net plus to the pot smoking gamer community.
 
It's ok. I'm either going to get an Intel or remain happily ever linked to my old 3080.
These prices are insane and NGreedia is TOO FKING GREEDY.
The problem is that instead of going to the same 4090/4080 prices, they just know that crazies will pay whatever for the latest and greatest.
Since I'm too old for this crap, I'll abstain from buying anything this year.
Just like for the woke crap games Microsoft, EA, Ubisoft are trying to sell to us in droves, I have the same response:
"MY PATIENCE OUTWEIGHS THEIR MARKETING BUDGETS!"
Any normal human being living decently, (taht isn't involved in AI/streaming/gaming for a living) duped into paying Nvidia/AIB 1500 Euros for a card which isn't high-end is delusional and has no respect for their work, money and time.
F U Nvidia.
 
Shaitan said:
It's ok. I'm either going to get an Intel or remain happily ever linked to my old 3080.
These prices are insane and NGreedia is TOO FKING GREEDY.
The problem is that instead of going to the same 4090/4080 prices, they just know that crazies will pay whatever for the latest and greatest.
Since I'm too old for this crap, I'll abstain from buying anything this year.
Just like for the woke crap games Microsoft, EA, Ubisoft are trying to sell to us in droves, I have the same response:
"MY PATIENCE OUTWEIGHS THEIR MARKETING BUDGETS!"
Any normal human being living decently, (taht isn't involved in AI/streaming/gaming for a living) duped into paying Nvidia/AIB 1500 Euros for a card which isn't high-end is delusional and has no respect for their work, money and time.
F U Nvidia.
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I bought a 4090 about 11 months ago for retail, and it was still too expensive. NVidia is reaching the point of diminishing returns, fewer and fewer people will be will to shell out $2500 for a new GPU. I can afford to but a I am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future. The cards are too expensive and there really aren't enough great video games to justify spending that amount on a card.
 
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godrilla said:
Most calim the best 4080 super variant is the strix version which in it by itself has the ROG premium. This card launched at $1249 and is still selling for $1249 with end of life supply.
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Yeah, Nvidia stopped making the SUPER 3 months ago..!
It could not compete with AMD pricing, so NV replaced it with a "faster" card, supposedly at the same MSRP, but new 4080 went for higher. (CUDA is dead for gaming.!)


Meanwhile the XTX cost less and outperformed it...
 
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defaultname365 said:
News flash: professional and high-end gamers prioritize pure rasterization performance because their goal is to hit insane FPS at low latencies, often at 1080p or lower settings; not to admire the graphics. But that doesn’t mean the entire gaming market revolves around esports optimization. For the average gamer who values a mix of visuals and performance, the advancements you’re downplaying have been transformative..
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You've been fooled by marketing!

There is no advancements in nVidia's Blackwell architecture. There is nothing new in the 5090.. is just costs more and is bigger. Advancements comes from AMD's chiplet designs, that allows the end-user a more Gaming for less money.


Secondly, if you are not buying a RTX5090 for Frames, then what are you buying it..? And does it even matter to this convo? Again, (by your own argument): If you are NOT into E-Sports then why do you even need to spend $800+ on any GPU..?

You can literally buy a used $500 gpu and upscale to any size monitor u want and never look back...
 
m3tavision said:
You've been fooled by marketing!

There is no advancements in nVidia's Blackwell architecture. There is nothing new in the 5090.. is just costs more and is bigger. Advancements comes from AMD's chiplet designs, that allows the end-user a more Gaming for less money.


Secondly, if you are not buying a RTX5090 for Frames, then what are you buying it..? And does it even matter to this convo? Again, (by your own argument): If you are NOT into E-Sports then why do you even need to spend $800+ on any GPU..?

You can literally buy a used $500 gpu and upscale to any size monitor u want and never look back...
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No one in actual esports that are pros uses upscaling... Casual gamers do... For regular games maybe but not for esports.. comp gaming like valorant and cs2 you don't use upscaling..
 
m3tavision said:
You've been fooled by marketing!

There is no advancements in nVidia's Blackwell architecture. There is nothing new in the 5090.. is just costs more and is bigger. Advancements comes from AMD's chiplet designs, that allows the end-user a more Gaming for less money.


Secondly, if you are not buying a RTX5090 for Frames, then what are you buying it..? And does it even matter to this convo? Again, (by your own argument): If you are NOT into E-Sports then why do you even need to spend $800+ on any GPU..?

You can literally buy a used $500 gpu and upscale to any size monitor u want and never look back...
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Wow, the classic "you’ve been fooled by marketing" retort, what a shortsighted way to dismiss an entire discussion. Let’s unpack this...

First, Blackwell: While I’ll agree Nvidia’s focus on enterprise features might overshadow gaming, claiming there are "no advancements" is simply not accurate. Even based on leaks and speculation, because let’s be clear, there are no official Blackwell RTX GPU specs released yet, we’re looking at increased CUDA cores, enhanced RT and Tensor cores, architectural optimizations, and improved power efficiency. Are these incremental? Sure, maybe. But to say "nothing new" while AMD’s chiplet design gets a free pass feels one-sided. Both companies are advancing in different areas.

Secondly, about buying GPUs for frames: Not every gamer prioritizes esports-level raster performance dude... There are users that want features like RT, DLSS, even AI-enhanced workflows, and better thermals and noise performance. The RTX 5090, assuming it follows Nvidia’s strategy, isn’t targeted at budget-conscious buyers or esports purists (duhh...). It’s aimed at enthusiasts who value cutting-edge tech and are willing to pay for it. That’s the point of halo products. They’re not for everyone (and they’re not pretending to be).

Lastly, your argument about spending $800+ if you’re not into esports is reductive. By that logic, why buy a modern car when a used one gets you from A to B? A $500 used GPU might suit your needs, but others prioritize high resolutions, future-proofing, and access to the latest tech. Personal preferences and priorities vary, and no single choice fits everyone.

So let’s keep it real. Until Nvidia officially announces Blackwell RTX GPUs, all the criticisms and hype are based on leaks and speculation. If you’re content with a $500 GPU and feel AMD offers more value for gaming, great. But that doesn’t invalidate others wanting premium experiences, whether for gaming, content creation, or just having the latest tech. And once again, nobody’s forcing YOU to buy an RTX 5090 or any GPU (or in fact, anything at all).
 
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Update.

The Asus model some are referencing at $1350 for the 5080 after cutting taxes and other fees falls $100 more than the Strix 4080 super that sells for $1250 since launch. So if we subtract the Asus premium alone we can land closer to the $1200.

Update many are saying that the 5070ti with 16 gis of vram might be the better value gpu especially if it comes at 15% performance loss vs 5080 more than 15% price variance expected.

www.techpowerup.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti Specs

NVIDIA GB203, 2475 MHz, 8960 Cores, 280 TMUs, 128 ROPs, 16384 MB GDDR7, 2205 MHz, 256 bit
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defaultname365 said:
Wow, the classic "you’ve been fooled by marketing" retort, what a shortsighted way to dismiss an entire discussion. Let’s unpack this...

First, Blackwell: While I’ll agree Nvidia’s focus on enterprise features might overshadow gaming, claiming there are "no advancements" is simply not accurate. Even based on leaks and speculation, because let’s be clear, there are no official Blackwell RTX GPU specs released yet, we’re looking at increased CUDA cores, enhanced RT and Tensor cores, architectural optimizations, and improved power efficiency. Are these incremental? Sure, maybe. But to say "nothing new" while AMD’s chiplet design gets a free pass feels one-sided. Both companies are advancing in different areas.

Secondly, about buying GPUs for frames: Not every gamer prioritizes esports-level raster performance dude... There are users that want features like RT, DLSS, even AI-enhanced workflows, and better thermals and noise performance. The RTX 5090, assuming it follows Nvidia’s strategy, isn’t targeted at budget-conscious buyers or esports purists (duhh...). It’s aimed at enthusiasts who value cutting-edge tech and are willing to pay for it. That’s the point of halo products. They’re not for everyone (and they’re not pretending to be).

Lastly, your argument about spending $800+ if you’re not into esports is reductive. By that logic, why buy a modern car when a used one gets you from A to B? A $500 used GPU might suit your needs, but others prioritize high resolutions, future-proofing, and access to the latest tech. Personal preferences and priorities vary, and no single choice fits everyone.

So let’s keep it real. Until Nvidia officially announces Blackwell RTX GPUs, all the criticisms and hype are based on leaks and speculation. If you’re content with a $500 GPU and feel AMD offers more value for gaming, great. But that doesn’t invalidate others wanting premium experiences, whether for gaming, content creation, or just having the latest tech. And once again, nobody’s forcing YOU to buy an RTX 5090 or any GPU (or in fact, anything at all).
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Nothing you've said dismisses the fact that Blackwell is just more Ai garbage, that uses more CUDA cores to shove more nVidia gimmicks down people's throats. Blackwell is just moAr power hungry than Lovelace and bigger..

Again, AMD is leading the field with advancement in gaming hardware.


And you are proving my point^, that only people that have "other" means of use, buy a 5090-esque & not strictly for gaming. Thus, making my whole point.. of who is actually buying these. As we already know bcz Nvidia themselves almost got in trouble for mis declaring harbors full of them, as retail (Sitting on pallets going to businesses.)

Gamers choose AMD, because they want raster and frames.


Again, if you are heavily into the latest special gimmicks that nvidia is selling you, then BY THEIR LOGIC, you don't need to ever buy a 4090, bcz a 4060 + dlss is the same thing. And if dlss 4060 is the same, then a used 3080 is as good as a 4060 and dlss... so that is just as good too.

Don't argue with the messenger, argue with nVidia's marketing logic. WHat is the point of buying a more powerful GPU, if you always aspire to use a gimmick like dlss?

Just buy the cheapest card and upscale, per nvidia!
 
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