Zuckerberg slams Apple for not "inventing anything great in a while"

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Recap: Mark Zuckerberg's offensive against Apple hasn't materialized out of thin air – Meta has been locked in a years-long battle with the tech giant. A major point of contention is the 30% cut Apple takes on transactions through its App Store, which Meta sees as an arbitrary "tax." Meta has also been hamstrung by Apple's recent anti-tracking features on iOS devices, which have dealt a significant blow to its data-driven ad-targeting capabilities.

In a recent podcast interview with Joe Rogan, Zuckerberg went after rival Apple, accusing the iPhone maker of resting on its laurels and hamstringing competition with restrictive policies. "They haven't invented anything great in a while," he stated bluntly. "It's like Steve Jobs invented the iPhone, and now they're just kind of sitting on it 20 years later."

He also warned companies that don't keep pushing new boundaries "eventually you're just going to get beat by someone."

He argued that lackluster iPhone upgrades are causing people to hold onto their devices longer, putting a dent in Apple's sales. To make up for the shortfall, Zuckerberg claimed Apple is nickel-and-diming consumers and third-party developers.

"They do it by basically squeezing people...having this 30% tax on developers by getting you to buy more peripherals and things that plug into it," he said, referencing Apple's commission on in-app purchases and add-ons like AirPods.

But Zuckerberg reserved his harshest criticism for Apple's strict control over connectivity with iPhones and other devices. He groused that Apple uses security and privacy as an excuse to hamstring rivals from plugging into its ecosystem. "It's insecure because you didn't build any security into it. And then now you're using that as a justification for why only your product can connect in an easy way," he ranted.

The CEO provided a personal example – his company's struggles to get their new Ray-Ban smart glasses to integrate smoothly with iPhones. He claimed if Meta could bypass Apple's "random rules" around hardware integration, it could double their profits.

To be fair, Zuckerberg didn't lay all the blame at Apple's feet. He acknowledged the fast pace of the tech sector, saying that the good news is it's just "super dynamic" and things are constantly "getting invented." He warned that any company failing to innovate risks getting "beat by someone" else.

He also acknowledged Apple's latest headset, the Vision Pro, represented a rare new product category for the company in recent years. But he said with a dismissive shrug that he heard "it's really good for watching movies."

All in all, Zuckerberg's comments highlight the growing tensions between the two tech giants. Apple's long-standing prioritization of security and privacy has increasingly put it at odds with adtech companies like Meta that want unfettered access to user data.

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Most of that is laughable, but he's not wrong about the excessive 30% developer tax or unnecessarily hobbling all third-party integration with the iPhone.

The bad news is that as iPhone sales slow, Apple will need to increase "services" revenue to continue to grow for Wall Street (in increasingly less desirable ways).
 
Zuck....<finger>
I depend on FB to stay in touch with friends all over the planet otherwise I'd kill it and forget Zuck.

I don't get why billionaires (who can literally do ANYTHING they want except buy back time spent) waste their precious time running ****ty companies. But maybe that's just me.
 
I don't get why billionaires (who can literally do ANYTHING they want except buy back time spent) waste their precious time running ****ty companies. But maybe that's just me.
In my (very limited) experience, the people that become CEO's of big companies are generally a very odd and damaged bunch. Making money is their small-man-syndrome coping mechanism for the gaping chasms in their personalities or abilities to form meaningful relationships, relax and just have fun. Politicians unfortunately share this trait...

 
Most of that is laughable, but he's not wrong about the excessive 30% developer tax or unnecessarily hobbling all third-party integration with the iPhone.
The fundamental issue is that Apple is able to stop the actual owners of iPhones/iPads from having full control of their devices, and is able to interfere with the owners of the device directly getting software from third parties. I simply don't think hardware makers should have any say in how the owners are able to use the device after the sale. I mean, let Apple get away with this and next thing you know we will have tractor makers blocking third party parts, or train manufacturings bricking locomotives for using third party repair places.
 
What are all these transactions that Meta pushes through the app store and suffers a 30% fee on? I don't remember ever paying anything directly to Meta and 30% of zero is zero.

I think what he's mostly talking about is Apple finally have gotten unwilling to allow Meta apps like Facebook to harvest and use much more data than it needs to provide its described service. So it sounds like Apple actually has done at least one good thing in the last few years.
 
Zuck....<finger>
I depend on FB to stay in touch with friends all over the planet otherwise I'd kill it and forget Zuck.

I don't get why billionaires (who can literally do ANYTHING they want except buy back time spent) waste their precious time running ****ty companies. But maybe that's just me.
What if they had a boss ? Blackrock
 
Well I mean, Apple makes phones and Facebook makes narcisists so which product is better? Trick question by the way, they're both now information parasites. One just makes their own hardware.
 
He's not wrong, Apple is to smartphones that Steam is to video games. Both just stagnant af and not doing anything else to wow their consumers, pretty pathetic...
 
Well I mean, Apple makes phones and Facebook makes narcisists so which product is better? Trick question by the way, they're both now information parasites. One just makes their own hardware.
FB has the only decent gaming VR in entire Western world. And Apple, Apple has a thing you can put on your head that has no content and nobody knows if it ever will.
FB is still sh*t though.
 
I'm no fan of Apple, but this sounds like a rich jerk whining because another company won't let him take advantage of their products to make himself even richer.

If the rich have most the countries money in banks and materialistic BS, then infrastructures suffer.
They have money to burn while your homes go up instead.

 
On one side, Apple recently don't have any BEST new product, I mean other than iMac and iPhone, both created under Steve Jobs era, new device not really that popular, the only few good things still around is the cable and charging accessories really keeping up the good quality.
 
"Meta has also been hamstrung by Apple's recent anti-tracking features on iOS devices, which have dealt a significant blow to its data-driven ad-targeting capabilities."

Well boo-f%#$@^g -hoo.........My heart is pumping purple piss for poor old Marky......
 
Companies complaining about others seems to be the norm these days to compete and yet the ones complaining are the greedy one's too. Real competition is no longer what it used to be.
 
What are all these transactions that Meta pushes through the app store and suffers a 30% fee on? I don't remember ever paying anything directly to Meta and 30% of zero is zero.
Probably games in the Oculus app? Only thing I could think of.
 
If Zucky does not like the dearth of "something great" inventions, perhaps he should stop P&Ming and invent something great himself.
 
He's right about the not "inventing anything great in a while", but that's valid for any other mobile phone manufacturer. That's a mature market and new great stuff is rare.

Apple still has the best product overall, especially when privacy and security are concerned.
The 30% cut is high, no doubt, but that's the price for accessing the iPhone market. Nobody is forced to sell their apps to iPhone users.

Restrictions for 3rd party stuff connectivity, installations only through the appStore and tracking prevention may be problems for the likes of Zuckerberg, but from a user perspective they are great features that make iPhone secure.
 
Apple still has the best product overall, especially when privacy and security are concerned.
The 30% cut is high, no doubt, but that's the price for accessing the iPhone market. Nobody is forced to sell their apps to iPhone users.

The problem is the idea that Apple should own the "iPhone Market" and be able to charge a gatekeeping fee in the first place. Once Apple sells an iPhone, Apple obviously no longer owns said device. The person who bought the iPhone does. The idea that is completely okay & normal for Apple to be able to restrict and control what people do on their own devices is rather disturbing to me, and Apple being able to maintain control of devices they don't even own anymore is hostile to creating a competitive marketplace.
 
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